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Experiment with always using parameters from base types for derived methods #23911
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[-]Experiment with always using parameters from base types for all derived methods[/-][+]Experiment with always using parameters from base types for derived methods[/+]on May 4, 2018 Couple of quick observations:
- Methods have the same implement/override ambiguity that properties do, as discussed in Contextually type implemented properties #6118. The core of any solution to both problems is the balancing of the majority who (I think) want to implement a method strictly against the twin minorities who alternately want to override a method, and those who want to implement a method, but unsoundly. I'm not convinced that restricting the domain to methods helps us choose the right tradeoffs, but it's a good idea to have a discussion since a couple of years have passed.
- I'm allergic to any function/method syntax distinctions unless everything else works out and there's no way around it. We should start with the assumption that there is no distinction between properties and methods.
I'm allergic to any function/method syntax distinctions unless everything else works out and there's no way around it. We should start with the assumption that there is no distinction between properties and methods.
I agree - non-explicit syntactic switches are not something I enjoy.
Reacted by Daniel RosenwasserRyanCavanaugh commented
on May 16, 2018 MemberMore actionsclass Base { method = (x: number) => { // ... } } class Derived extends Base { method(x) { // Does 'x' have the type 'number' here? } }
Conveniently, this code is illegal. The converse example would just be a case for #10570
RyanCavanaugh commented
on May 16, 2018 MemberMore actionsI really want to take this and #10570 as part of a "3.0 is a numerological excuse to make some good breaks" bundle.
Regarding this example
class Base { method(x: "a" | "b") { // ... } } class Derived extends Base { method(x = "a") { // We have to make sure 'x' doesn't have type '"a"' // which is both unsound and less useful. } }
I think in any world,
Derived#methodhas the signature(x: string): void. Parameter default expressions have to be widened, and we don't want to contextually type them (i.e. with a literal union type here) because that results in the type of a contextually-typed expression being observable (rules 1 and 2 of contextual typing: don't do that!). And it's certainly legal to write a derived type with a wider method signature than its base, so this code is already quite valid today and it'd be unwise to break it by invalidating anyone callingderived.method("hi")Reacted by SarenReacted by tarnishablecdonaldpipowitch commented
on Jul 20, 2018 ContributorMore actionsa "3.0 is a numerological excuse to make some good breaks" bundle
Interesting! Are there more breaks in this "bundle"? (Looking for example at #13971)
Referencing a similar question regarding interfaces on SO
and complication on implementing multiple interfaces:
interface X { foo(i: string): string } interface Y { foo(x: number): number } class K implements X, Y { foo(x: number): number foo(x: string): string foo(x: number | string) { return x } }
Reacted by Ian MacLeod and Walker GrayI'm definitely curious about whether there's been any more progress on this?
At least from my perspective, it seems like inference of method parameters from the interface would be a pretty big ergonomics win (and happens relatively frequently, especially in library/framework code)
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- Methods have the same implement/override ambiguity that properties do, as discussed in Contextually type implemented properties #6118. The core of any solution to both problems is the balancing of the majority who (I think) want to implement a method strictly against the twin minorities who alternately want to override a method, and those who want to implement a method, but unsoundly. I'm not convinced that restricting the domain to methods helps us choose the right tradeoffs, but it's a good idea to have a discussion since a couple of years have passed.
Would a less strict take on it be more palatable? From what I can gather from the various issues/PRs towards this, the primary motivation seems to be improving the ergonomics, and is not so much about strictly checking classes to their parent types (we already have good assertions covering those cases).
For example: infer the types of method arguments when
extending orimplementsing—but do not check compatibility when explicitly overriding a parameter?E.g.
interface Base { doThing(a: number): number } class Foo implements Base { doThing(a /* inferred to be number */) { return a; } } class Bar implements Base { // already an error here: // "Property 'doThing' in type 'Bar' is not assignable to the same property in base type 'Base'." doThing(a: string /* not an error here */) { return parseInt(a); } } class Baz implements Base { doThing(a: 1 | 2 | 3 /* not widened to number*/) { return a; } }
Reacted by Josh Dover, Endel Dreyer, Charles, Dongkyun Yu (DongKyun) and NoahAny movement on this issue?
Reacted by Robert Molina, husticdf, Micheal Pearce, Frank Weindel, Noah and Greg BrownReacted by Georgii Dolzhykovtadhgmister commented
on Jan 19, 2020 More actionsThis much like a lot of very similar suggestions only consider implicit type behaviour changing fairly subtlety. #36165 suggests a way to explicitly say "the same type as expected by base class" which solves the issue of derive types without rewriting the same parameter signature every time.
Reacted by Nick Partridge1 remaining item
Ryan Cavanaugh (@RyanCavanaugh) wrote:
Regarding this example
class Base { method(x: "a" | "b") { // ... } } class Derived extends Base { method(x = "a") { // We have to make sure 'x' doesn't have type '"a"' // which is both unsound and less useful. } }
I think in any world,
Derived#methodhas the signature(x: string): void. Parameter default expressions have to be widened…I don't see it that way. Per my long comment on #32082, type inheritance should use the nearest explicitly defined type from the ancestor classes, further narrowed by any interfaces implemented by the subclass. (See the linked comment for the full methodology and rationale.)
If you follow that logic, then
Derived#methodwould have the same signature explicitly defined in superclassBase, which ismethod(x: "a" | "b")with an inferred return type ofvoid. Parameterxshould not simply takeanyorstring— such a presumption forces each subclass to explicitly repeat the narrower inherited type, which is not DRY and indicates that type inheritance provides no value to method parameter types if they can be arbitrarily "widened" by default values. (And why would we widen the value tostringand not toanyor some other aribitrary type? All of these supersets of the explicit type"a" | "b"are arbitrary, and none of them represent correct type inheritance in classical OOP.)My proposal for this issue of parameter types of overridden methods in derived classes follows the logic of my comment on #32082. Such methods should be allowed to specify explicit parameter types that are compatible with the class's ancestor classes and interfaces, but in the absence of explicit types, then the types should be inherited from those ancestor classes and interfaces as I proposed, and only inferred from default values if the ancestor classes and interfaces have nothing to say about this method name.
I really want to take this and #10570 as part of a "3.0 is a numerological excuse to make some good breaks" bundle.
This sentiment I agree with. 😄 So… how about TypeScript 4.0?
Reacted by Noah- added a commit that references this issue
on Jan 1, 2021 darklight9811 commented
on Jun 9, 2021 More actionsAny updates on this?
Reacted by Tadhg McDonald-JensenReacted by Adam Salma, jing, Marcelo Bertoldi Diani and Ulrich-Matthias SchäferReacted by Maciej Holyszko, Junsang Cheon, Yusuf Aran, Ulrich-Matthias Schäfer, Roy Sommer, Martin Hansen, Daniel Ehrhardt, Dongkyun Yu (DongKyun), Noah, Devmaleeq and 2 moreAny updates on this?
Reacted by Daniel Ehrhardt, Sindre Aarsaether, Dongkyun Yu (DongKyun), Murat Gözel, pmaksymovych, Yuriy, Sharon (Sean) Rolel, Frank Weindel, Daniel Ferenc Balogh, Noah and 9 moreReacted by Tadhg McDonald-JensenNo Typescript expert but would love to see Typescript implement this somehow. There is also a gain in this when it comes to using
module.jsandmodule.d.tsseparately, and I don't mean standalone modules or packages, smaller modules inside projects codebase.Code example for more vibe:
// utility.d.ts abstract class Utility { dirname(importMetaUrl: string): string; resolvePath(importMetaUrl: string, relativePath: string): string; // ... } declare const utility: Utility export {utility, Utility}
// utility.js import { URL, fileURLToPath } from 'url' import path from 'path' class Utility { /* Error: TS7006: Parameter 'importMetaUrl' implicitly has an 'any' type. */ dirname(importMetaUrl) { const __filename = fileURLToPath(importMetaUrl) return path.dirname(__filename) } /* Error: TS7006: Parameter 'importMetaUrl' implicitly has an 'any' type. */ /* Error: TS7006: Parameter 'relativePath' implicitly has an 'any' type. */ resolvePath(importMetaUrl, relativePath) { return path.resolve(this.dirname(importMetaUrl), relativePath) } // ... } export const utility = new Utility()
Reacted by Arda Dogan and Maciej HolyszkoThe JSDoc workaround is to use
@typeon the function itself:class Joiner { /** @param {string[]} strings*/ join(...strings) { return strings.join('') } } class CommaJoiner extends Joiner { /** @type {Joiner['join']} */ join(...strings) { return strings.join(','); } } class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { /** @type {Joiner['join']} */ join(...strings) { return strings.join('\n'); } }
Though it would be nice to be able to use
super['join']since the above doesn't work when using mixins.Not sure what kind of cast works on TS though. None of these do:
interface IJoiner { join: (...strings:string[]) => string; }; class Joiner implements IJoiner { join(...strings:string[]) { return strings.join('') } } class CommaJoiner extends Joiner implements IJoiner { join(...strings){ return strings.join(','); } } class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { join!: Joiner['join']; join(...strings) { return strings.join('\n'); } }
The third one is the closest, but TS says it's a duplicate identifier without being able to ignore. Maybe relaxing is the key? If TS could also take hints from
JSDocsthat could be a solution.This is already possible:
class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { join: Joiner['join'] = (...strings) => { return strings.join('\n') } }
Despite using the arrow function, this supports
thisandsuperinside the override method, both in typings and in runtime.This is already possible:
class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { join: Joiner['join'] = (...strings) => { return strings.join('\n') } }
Despite using the arrow function, this supports
thisandsuperinside the override method, both in typings and in runtime.look your memory app 😋 you lost prototype reference and class optimisation for a type feature, this is not suitable.
Type should not affect code baseReacted by Gilbert and Noahtadhgmister commented
on Oct 26, 2023 More actionsThis is already possible:
class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { join: Joiner['join'] = (...strings) => { return strings.join('\n') } }
Despite using the arrow function, this supports
thisandsuperinside the override method, both in typings and in runtime.look your memory app 😋 you lost prototype reference and class optimisation for a type feature, this is not suitable. Type should not affect code base
then apply it to the arguments and return type:
class NewLineJoiner extends Joiner { join(...strings: Parameters<Joiner["join"]>): ReturnType<Joiner["join"]> { return strings.join('\n'); } }
playground link. And if that feels way to verbose and repetative then possibly support #36165.
Reacted by Henning Dieterichs- added a commit that references this issue
on Nov 6, 2023 I think a first implementation could just cover the case when
overrideis present to avoid various problems.
A simple reference implementation could be this:Whenever this pattern matches syntactically:
class MySubClass extends MyBaseClass { ... override myMethodName(arg1, ..., argN) { ... } ... }
infer the types like this:
class MySubClass extends MyBaseClass { ... override myMethodName(arg1: Parameters<Joiner["join"]>[1], ..., argN: Parameters<Joiner["join"]>[N]): ReturnType<Joiner["join"]> { ... } ... }
Of course this would have to be implemented in a more performant way.
Reacted by Siraj Chokshi, Gilbert, Ben Dixon and J MewesReacted by Leonardo Salazartadhgmister commented
on Feb 21, 2026 More actionsTechnically speaking, this is allowed today:
declare class Base { pair<T>(a:T,b:T): [T,T] } class Foo extends Base { // override pair(...) - defined outside of class } // infers arguments and return type based on known type of Foo.prototype.pair Foo.prototype.pair = function pair(a, b){ return [b,a] }
I'm sure there are cases (like if the class has decorators) where this isn't necessarily doable but in vanilla javascript I believe this is semantically equivalent to putting the methods in the class, certainly targeting ES5 rewrites class methods to assigning fields in the prototype. It is still a change to how you write javascript code for a type feature but at least this version doesn't sacrifice on runtime performance.
(and again I'd advocate for #36165 for anything beyond a direct 1:1 inheritance of the parent class type over any other form of new syntax to handle this case.)
Note some related issues for doing this with properties rather than methods: #3667, #6118, #1373.
Goal
We want to make it easier for users to derive types without rewriting the same parameter signature every time
Potential ideas
noImplicitAny(doesn't work for default initializers 😞)anyin all locations, opt in with another strictness flag (😞)Potential issues
Default initializers with more capable derived types
Default initializers that become less-capable via contextual types
Distinction between properties and methods
Would this work?
What about this?
Keywords: base type derived contextual contextually inherit methods implicit any